Paul Mackenzie, 50, a Kenyan cult leader accused of ordering his followers, who were members of the Good News International Church, to starve themselves to death in Shakahola forest, and his wife Rhoda Mumbua Maweu, speak to their lawyer George Kariuki from a steel-grilled dock at the Shanzu Law Courts, in Mombasa, Kenya, May 10, 2023. REUTERS/Stringer